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First off thank you for showing interest in our guild. We just want to make sure that you know what type of guild we are and that you think we are going to be the correct fit for you before applying.
We are a PvE guild. This means you might be required to spec a certain way if we feel it will help the raid progress. We're going to be raiding a lot, so if you can't be totally committed to doing so we're probably not the guild for you.
If you can't follow instructions, are unwilling to take care of things on your own such as getting gear/attunements completed then please don't waste your time or our time by trying to apply here.
We start our raids at 6 Server time(8 Eastern) and will go til raid completion on any given night. Make sure you can make these raid times before proceeding with your application.
Be patient with your application as it is a process. We are not the type of guild that will invite as soon as you throw in an application. We are going to be more selective of who we bring into our family. You have got to make yourself available for raids, as well as do your best to maintain communication with myself as well as your class officers. You have to show that you are wanting to be in this guild. It is one thing to say you want to PVE and want to be in this guild. It is another thing entirely to SHOW it.
Don't leave anything on the application blank, if you don't know what a question is asking, say that. If you don't have what the question is looking for, say that as well. At least we know that you've read the question and tried to fill it out to the best of your ability.
Please,
no short hand notations, i.e. LOL, u, ur, 'cause, etc. If you write like an idiot, people are going to assume that you are an idiot. We don't know you. Take your time while filling out an application. Use proper grammar and make sure you provide as much information as possible. If your application looks terrible, we're going to assume you are terrible. A lot of the applications we receive are declined out of hand due to bad grammar and/or lack of information. Do yourself a favor and take your time. This cannot be stressed enough.
Class OfficersThese are our Current Class/Role officers. You must know who they are so you can maintain communication with them through the application process!
Death Knight - Corunir
Druid - Trumoebill
Hunter - Chemkil
Mage - Egam
Paladin - Nullified
Priest - Victavis
Rogue - Darkeyes
Shaman - Beaverflute
Warlock - Silvía
Warrior - Elated
Tanks - Saintofwar
It is important to talk to class officers to get a feel for what we are looking for. You need to show initiative. We shouldn't have to actively look for you...you need to actively look for one of us.
Forum RegistrationFirst thing you need to do upon submitting an application is to make an account (named after your main) on the website. This will allow you to respond to any questions/comment posted in your application.
Secondly, you need to request
Forum Access IF you are accepted into the guild so you can view the guild forums!
Also, make sure you get the required mods and keep them updated!
Desired Classes & Spec Please check the main page for a list of what we are currently recruiting. We aim to fill a raid group nightly without making many people sit out. However, all members will be required to sit out at times. We only recruit classes when and if we need them, but we may consider applications from exceptional players of all classes in rare situations. We typically recruit players to fulfill a role as a certain spec, but if you have gear and experience in multiple specs then you should describe it in your application.
Gear & ExperiencePlease include a link to your Armory profile in your application. Your gear must be optimally gemmed and enchanted. Your gear should clearly demonstrate your understanding of your class and role, as well as your dedication to improving your character. Be prepared to have your gear choices critiqued and questioned, including gemming and enchanting choices.
AttitudeYour passion in WoW must be to constantly improve your character, the guild, and get top server kills. This should be evident in your interactions with us.
Loot whores, drama queens, and casual players need not apply.
ComputerYour computer must be able to handle raid environments and whatever UI mods you require to perform. If you share a connection with nine other people and run a machine that locks up in Dalaran, please don't waste our time. Ventrilo (voice communication) is required. This includes having a working microphone that doesn't sound like it's mounted somewhere in your nasal cavity or the middle of a hurricane.
Raid TimesIt is amazing how many people seem to miss this as it is posted in several locations but I will post it here again. It is important for you to know that we will not take your app serious if you do not show up to raid on any given night. If you aren't making yourself available to be trialed then we're certainly not gonna go out of my way to track you down. Make sure you show up a few minutes before 6 Server Time and see if we can fit you into whatever raid we are running that day.
Our raid schedule is roughly as follows:
Tuesday: 6 Server - 11 Server
Wednesday: 6 Server - 11 Server
Thursday: 6 Server - 11 Server
Monday/Sunday: Clean Up Days 6 Server - 11 Server
Friday/Saturday - 10 Man Raids/Off Nights
Below is a good read:
Application Basics
Fill in the BlanksFirst,
nothing will get your application rejected faster than leaving questions blank.
Always answer every question on the application to the best of your ability. Give each question due consideration and keep your audience in mind. A guild application is your introduction to the officers of the guild you want to join. These people probably know nothing about you and your application serves to provide a first impression — something you can never “do over”.
Leaving application questions blank, or giving overly brief (one or two sentence) answers, suggests to the reader that you’re too lazy to bother providing more information.
If you’re too lazy to bother properly filling out a guild application, then you’re probably too lazy to do any of the other things they would require of you. It also suggests that you’re filling out multiple applications at once, meaning you don’t have any real emotional investment in the application you submitted. If you don’t care, why should they?
Leave Your Fetish at the DoorYour application should reflect not only your knowledge and skill, but your personality as well so these people can get a feel for how you’ll fit into guild life if your application is accepted. However, no one wants to hear about your weird granola fetish on a guild application.
StevewardTake the advice of professional match-maker Steve Ward, star of VH1’s new reality show Tough Love:
Rule #1: Don’t be weird!No one wants to hear about your cat Fluffy or your addiction to erotic machinima. These people do want to get to know you, but they don’t need that much information up front. Just like you wouldn’t air your dirty laundry on a first date, leave your dirty secrets at the door when you’re ready to fill out a guild application.
No One Likes an Angry ExMost guild applications will ask why you left your last guild. This question is intentionally loaded to help guilds weed out the crazies. Give too little information here and people will get suspicious. Give too much information and you may shoot yourself in the foot. Honesty is key here, because it wouldn’t take much for officers of your prospective guild to get in touch with officers of your former guild and verify your story. However,
if you left your last guild on bad terms, they don’t need the gory details.As Mr. Ward so succinctly put it:
“Every guy loves a good cat fight, but no one wants to date the cat!”If you left your last guild on bad terms, simply say there was a disagreement or difference of opinion and leave it at that. If the new guild wants more details, they’ll ask you or they’ll ask your former guild and then ask you for clarification. (This is good incentive not to be a total jerk, btw. People do check!)
Strengths and WeaknessesYou should be able to identify both your strengths and your weaknesses. If you’re applying for a raiding guild but your gear isn’t quite up to par, tell them so and explain what you’re doing to make it better.
Here’s an example:
“I’ve got the best ranged weapon available in the content I’m doing, but my boots and cloak could use improvement. I’m in the process of collecting materials to get a better cloak crafted and I’m farming Dungeon X for better boots off Boss Y.”
This shows that you’re aware of your shortcomings and doing what you can to improve on them within your means. This shows knowledge of your class and a willingness to put in the work to improve on your own. Even if your gear stinks but you’re applying to join a hardcore raid guild, you’ve shown that you’re doing what you can to get better and that you are familiar with what to look for to maximize your effectiveness.
The Right StuffThis morning, I posed the following question on Twitter:
“GMs and Officers: What do you look for in a great guild application? What qualities stand out to you as something you really want?”
And here are some of the answers I got:
(@SlowWolf): Typically, when I was an officer, I normally looked to see if they could take criticism.
(@brajana): Knows their class, willing to put in effort, good reasons for wanting to join (and leave their last guild), patience.
(@greyseer): Humility. Reason for joining aligns with guild purpose/theme. For an RP guild: knowledge of character and some lore.
(@Arrens): Someone that can write a complete sentence with proper grammar. As an RP guild, it’s implicitly required.
(@outdps): We’ll take just about anyone who is not an obvious failure, and they have a trial period of 2 Naxx runs.
The diversity of the responses above illustrates a key point we haven’t touched on yet: Part of submitting a solid guild application is making sure the guild you’re applying for is right for you. If your wants and needs from the game don’t mesh with a guild’s mission, officers can tell that from your application and will reject you.
However, this kind of rejection isn’t a bad thing! They’re saving you the trouble of joining the guild only to leave later on because they’re not what you were looking for. Don’t take that kind of rejection personally!
Five Tips 1.
Don't spell like a moron. Yes, yes, it's the Internet and spelling and grammar aren't cool among the kids these days. Nevertheless, you're trying to impress these people, so at least make some effort to not type like a monkey undergoing shock treatment. Typing in all lower-case with no punctuation except for "lol" makes the guild officers think that you're going to be a nightmare to have in guild chat, and they're probably right.
2.
Use the actual guild's application. Not a generic application. Not another guild's application. ESPECIALLY not the application of the archnemesis of the guild you're applying to. This is usually an automatic disqualification -- if you can't take the time to fill out the application, how are you going to abide by the guild rules?
3.
Don't flirt or post pictures. No one cares that you're a girl. Really. No, really. They care about how well you can play. If they ask for your gender, it's okay to tell the truth, but including revealing pics or a link to your myspace in your application screams "In the future, I will carry on an ongoing flirtation with several guildmates that will eventually destroy the entire organization." I would assume it's also verboten for a guy to flirt and post half-naked pictures in his guild application, but honestly I would probably /ginvite that person just to watch the chaos that ensues.
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Don't complain about your last guild. Even if the split was really bad, just say "there were some issues about _____ and I decided to move on." An epic description of the drama in your last guild makes you look bad, and some of the officers in your wanna-be-new guild probably have friends in your old one.
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Don't talk about what they can give you -- talk about what you can give them. I have seen many guild applications where the reason for joining boils down to "I want to get gear and you guys are progressed!" Sure, that's probably the real reason for it, but it's considered tactless (kind of like saying "I really need some money" during a job interview.) Instead, talk about your desire to see new content, meet new people, and help your guild in new encounters. Don't mention gear at all, really.
What is the most common mistake that recruits make when they apply to you?We’re fairly forgiving, but we don’t like seeing people apply who obviously have no idea how to gear for their class/spec. Not taking the application seriously. We get a lot of applications that are very poorly filled out, featuring little to no capitalization/punctuation, skipped questions and incomplete answers.
They forget that we’ve been raiding successfully without them up to this point, and that their job with their application is to sell us on the fact that they’d make an excellent contribution to OUR team, not that we’d make an excellent contribution to their playing and loot-gathering experience. "I want to join because I’m tired of wiping with people who don’t know what they’re doing" or "You guys seem like a good way for me to see end-game content" are all red flags. I also hate seeing tanks/healers apply when that role is obviously not their passion and they’d rather be joining in a DPS capacity. As a healer myself, few things irk me more than someone who applies as a healer, but can’t wait until the raid ends to spec DPS or log onto a DPS alt, and is only healing so they can get into a raid guild. They never perform as well as people who love the role.
Unprepared players who don’t know their classes as well as they should or higher level raiding, who use green quality gems or who don’t even now about consumables or what kind of consumables or optimal for them. And then there are the players who think that the less text they type the more we’ll like their application…
In contrast, what would you describe as the perfect application?Well thought out answers which show in depth knowledge of the class and the realities of high end raiding. The ability to type properly (not as common as you’d think).
Answers of 2-3 sentences. Show me that you took 5 minutes to fill out our application. After all, you’ll be spending 9-15 hours a week in the raid, what’s 5 minutes to apply? Also, something that shows they have an understanding of the game and their class, beyond "uber-deeps". Extensive vocabulary is always a plus.
The perfect application would be THOROUGH. It would convince me that they know their class, know their raid fights (even if they haven’t experienced them first hand), and know their place as part of a team–meaning willingness to rotate with their classmates, acceptance of criticism, and acknowledgment that top-notch raid performance is a journey, not a destination that they have already reached. If I look them up on Armory, I should see that this character really is their main and their pride and joy–this is especially important for tanks and healers.
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